Snacks and Chats, Season 1
Snacks and Chats - A Serious Podcast With A Silly Name
Last year, my mate Ben messaged me one day to say he reckoned the interviews I’d been doing would make a mean podcast. “Are you offering to be my producer?” I asked him. “Okeh,” he replied. So, we recorded our first podcast. We didn’t have much of a plan, we made the name up on the fly as we recorded that first episode, and it was only after that first recording that we decided on a theme.
“Where are you from?” “OK, but, where are you REALLY from?” It’s often a loaded question, one that I, and so many others dread. And it’s a question that reveals where we see ourselves fitting into our society, our communities – versus where others see us fitting in. It’s not the only thing we talk about with our guests, but it’s how we begin each episode – and the stories go from there.
Episode 1: Katherine Lowe
“Sometimes when I’m driving now, I think to myself, if I make a mistake, or if I drive too slow, or anything, people are going to look in the car and think, “That f******g Asian driver. Typical f*****g woman, Asian driver.”
Blogger and model booker Katherine Lowe talks to Lani and Ben about growing up Chinese in New Zealand, why she used to wish she was white, casual racism from strangers and friends, travelling to China for the first time, why blogging and the fashion industry sometimes feels silly and learning to be happy.
Episode 2: Nate Nauer
“They cut my hair with a machete and gave me a hiding. That was my first day.”
Mai FM breakfast host Nate Nauer talks to Lani and Ben about getting kicked out of school and being sent to Samoa as a kid to be straightened out. He discusses getting beaten up at Samoa College, the culture shock of moving there, and the struggle of coming back and having to adjust to life in New Zealand, and how he went from being a forklift driver to being one of the most recognisable voices on commercial radio. It ends with a friendly parting shot at Jono and Ben for good measure. This time Ben Lawson is also on the mic, and Lani remembered to bring the snacks.
Listen to the episode on iTunes here.
Episode 3: Lucy Zee
“You know what fucks me off? The people who made fun of weird foods, are the people today going, “Have you seen that place on Dominion Road? It’s so good. Have you heard of dumplings?” Would you have eaten dumplings when you were 7 years old? No, you were exactly the people making fun of people eating dumplings.”
Creative producer Lucy Zee talks to Lani and Ben about growing up Chinese in small-town New Zealand, needing an apology from the people who made fun of the food she ate as a kid but think they know the good dumpling spots on Dominion Road, running away from strict family life, the beauty of being able to speak Cantonese and the difficulties of dealing with sexism in the entertainment industry.
Also, memes. So much talk about memes, pop-culture references, in-jokes, awkwardness and the Who Is Ben Lawson origin story.
Listen to Episode 3 on iTunes here.
Episode 4: Raiza Biza
“At this point, I can’t even really communicate with my cousins. My Swahili is so broken, my Kinyarwanda is basically non-existent…the catch 22 is that my parents thought speaking English with us would give us some sort of head-start in life.”
From Rwanda to Hamilton, Raiza Biza traces the steps of how his family came to New Zealand, talks about the years it took to adjust to life here, the lingering guilt of feeling like he’s not doing enough, and the importance of advocating for women’s rights and equality. He also talks to Lani and Ben about the creative community in Hamilton and how travel has aided in his observational style of music.
Listen to the episode on iTunes here.
Episode 5: Kanoa Lloyd
“I’ve started to realise that when a Māori person asks you where you come from, that’s part of what we do. You talk about your tūrangawaewae and your whānau and I kind of struggled with that for some time…Also because my Mum is Pākehā she always said, “You’re half Māori and you’re half Pākehā,”…so I would be giving them a break-down of my DNA, when they were just trying to say, “Hi, What’s up?”
TV3 weather presenter Kanoa Lloyd talks to Lani & Ben about the pressure that comes with publicly advocating for te reo Māori in mainstream media, dealing with criticism, being outspoken about abuse, travelling around the country as a kid, and how starting out in children’s TV taught her valuable lessons about writing and presenting the weather.
And, what may be a first in Snacks and Chats history – everyone actually eats snacks during their chats!!